Friday, January 15, 2010

Guess What? Michiganians Support Tax Increases

This is going to blow the conservatives' minds. A new study released by the Kellogg Foundation shows that a majority of Michiganians support a broad range of tax increases.

The polling found:

• Support for increasing the sales tax increased from 37 percent to 51 percent and was opposed by 9 percent after deliberations.

• Support for boosting the income tax went up from 27 percent to 45 percent, and opposed by 20 percent.

• Support for cutting business taxes increased from 40 percent to 67 percent.

• Backing for increasing the beer and wine tax was high before and after discussion, from 66 percent to 68 percent.

"The public is willing to sacrifice, willing to invest, willing to pay the cost. However they demand transparency, accountability and different results," said Anne Mosle, vice president of the Kellogg Foundation

Now, mind you, this wasn't the usual reactive poll. A group of 314 people were invited to Lansing for a weekend to engage in and participate in a discussion of the topic and the poll was taken at the end of the process.

"This was an unprecedented experiment. We put the entire state in one room under conditions where it could think" about the economic crisis, said James Fishkin, director of the Center for Deliberative Democracy at Stanford, in a teleconference with the media today.

The deliberative poll, he said, is an effort to use social science to reveal what people think when they're informed and engaged. Participants broke into discussion groups to delve into the issues, and they were given pro and con arguments to consider.

So, what does this information do to the famous right wing talking point that people are not willing to pay more taxes? I think it destroys that myth, once and for all.


Anonymous said...

Who cares? Let them raise taxes and see how happy they are. How much worse can you make Mich? Everyone that gave a shit left the state a long time ago. We Texans will take your talent all day long. And we have been for the last 10 years.

djtyg said...

Chris, we all know you're not living in Texas. Knock it off.

Anonymous said...

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Go ahead djtyg call me Chris now.LOL

djtyg said...

Well, Chris, so far you've pretended to be me (both in real name and blogger name), have pretended to be a guy from Texas, and have posted as "anonymous" and "Jeff".

It seems like you really, really hate being yourself. And you like being me.

And you're posting a conservative tabloid on here. Whoop-it-dee-doo.

Is your use of my name an attempt to intimidate me or something? It just makes me laugh because you keep committing acts that are illegal. Libel, internet fraud, what's next? Coming to my house?

Well, I doubt you'd have the guts to come to my house.

And no, Chris, I don't even read the stuff you post at. It just shows up on my google alert when you pretend you're me.

Chris said...

Are you crazy trying to threaten me? If you want to kick my ass go ahead. I know you find it hard to believe but I could give a crap about you djpyg. If it wasn't for Brown winning today I wouldn't even be on here making fun of you idiots. Go back in your moms basement of get a girlfriend or boyfriend whatever you want. But stop blamming me for someone elses game.

djtyg said...

I never threatened you, Chris. I'm just pointing out all the stuff you do to try to intimidate others.

It's not working, Chris. It's also illegal.

djtyg said...

Also pointing out what a sad, lonely life you must have when you feel like you have to pretend to be other people. Including me.

Anonymous said...

BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA ... it's the MASSACHUSETTS MIRACLE!! Stuff that one in your pipe and smoke it you losers! You can have NY23, we'll take our Governorships and our Massachusetts Senate seat!! BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

You idiots really F**KED UP when you try ramming your radical lieberal Hypocrat plans down America's throat.

Bruce Fealk said...

John, Martha Coakley did screw up, no doubt about it. But we lost because we didn't give the people in the middle what they wanted, real reform, real change, liberal change.

Democrats will regroup and hopefully learn an lesson and take care of the middle class, get a better health care bill, single-payer hopefully and real consumer protection and get rid of the massive bonuses at the banks.